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Harih Om Tat Sat. Jai Guru.
I’m thinking of discussing the same subject as we had dealt with last night. See, why is it that your minds are not doing the necessary introspection and arriving at the required measure of strength and fervour? This is a point that I am very much concerned with. If you are not prepared to do introspection, let me do it for you. I have done it yesterday for a long time.
With regard to the impacts that our mind generates or feels, during the course of the day’s or week’s interaction, is there any way other than digesting and dissolving it? Is there any other way? If there is no other way, then why don’t you try to digest it? And this digestion does not mean any additional effort. In any way, the affectation will linger in your mind and you will feel afflicted, tormented, depressed or what not. While that miserable plight is there, all that I want is that you must have an attitude of dissolving it, digesting it.
Now for the mind to generate an attitude, how much time does it take?
To me, it appears it is one of exposure. If somebody tells you that this is the point of view, immediately you grasp it like cotton grasping fire. You know when, sitting in CIRD, we were discussing Crohns disease, Dr. Srivastava said: “Swamiji, it is very, very difficult to cure it. One has to be very, very hygienic. It is very difficult. You know it requires washing of the hands as frequently as possible. Our hands Swamiji are the most dirty part of the body."
What? Our hands! But it is this hand that we are using for eating and it is this hand that we use for cleaning everything in this world. And he says this hand is the most dirty part. Let me tell you very clearly, for the first time in my life, I heard that the hand is the most dirty. Many people have said on the other hand, “His hands are very clean, my hands are very clean, look at the hand, it is always clean”. This is what I have heard throughout 73 years of my life. But here is a doctor who comes and tells me that the hand is the most dirty part. I can tell you that it was an electrical shock for me, but I did not get shocked. But it was so stunning a revelation. The eye specialist told me “The ideal situation will be Swamiji, the hands never touch the eye.”
Tell me whether it is not an attitude, a new enlightenment. In the same manner, can you not react to what I say? You are not looking bright. Arre thoda haskar react karo na. See, can you not react? All that is required is – “I want to digest this, digest this, and I will digest it.” The affectation is already there, it will continue to be there. All that is required is a new attitude toward it. What is that attitude? This affectation has come, however it has come, whoever has caused it, whatever has taken place, I have to dissolve it. There are people who suffer from guilt and sin, what is their way? You tell me? Can you go back in your life and ask the year, month, day and hours to turn back? And then go to the same period and proceed with your life without doing it?
Am I clear? No?
See I have committed a sin and it is acting as guilt. Is it possible for me to reverse time, relive that day, without that sin? So it becomes part of my life. What will you do about that guilt? Tell me. You have to digest it. That digestion means purity. The same way, when affectation is there caused by other people, other factors, there also it is one of purity! Now I would like a clear answer from you:
What prevents you from adopting this plus factor?
Put the plus factor into the mind – I will digest it. How will you digest it? I tell you at least as a Guru or as a nobody – that mind has got the capacity to digest anything that comes into it. Suppose somebody hits me on my head, my mind cannot digest it. The impact will be there in the body. But mental impact can be completely neutralized. Mind has got that power. Actually our mind is already doing it. It’s a question of doing it with a little more readiness and fastness, that’s all. What do you say?
Now this is one thing. Yesterday, I also said that this is so far as the interactional impacts are concerned. In the mind, there are mind-born factors like desire, greed, jealousy, competition, fear, hatred and so many other things. This, the mind itself produces it, not necessarily as an impact. But it is like that – ambition, aspiration and all. There also, the mind has to work and dissolve these desires. That also is possible.
I believe between the two, the second is harder and the first is easier. The first is at least caused by another factor, the second is inborn. So it becomes difficult. But that also can be set right. You tell me, in the whole of Vedanta is this not the lesson? S, you say – you know a little Vedanta. Is there any other Jeevan Mukti, I don’t understand.
The Jeevanmukta lakshana is atītah, ananusandhānam, bhaviṣyad-avichāraṇam. Not being bothered about what transpired and not being bothered about what will take place, and having a level of indifference towards whatever is going on……. This is Jeevanmukta lakshana. Is it not, R, applicable solely to the mind? Is there any other Jeevanmukti anywhere in this world? Now this such a simple thing – why is it you are not able to incorporate it and practice it? This you must answer me.
Obviously you are not prepared to take up this introspection, so what I’m saying is that let me do this introspection for you. What do you say? Why is it that you are not taking up this introspection? Tum bolo to. Are you incapacitated? Then, you may ask – “Swamiji, the parameters of ability, capacity etc. will be differing. So the people are not able to do introspection as you do” – if you tell me this, I have an answer. How to select people of parameters? Now all of you have come here only for this purpose. Is there any other purpose for which you have come? Why did you come here? So does it not mean you are qualified for it? If you did not feel the qualification, do you think you would have come and remained here? What do you say, S?
What I say is that she (V) has come here only for this. R has come here only for this. J has come here only for this. We have not invited them. They have come by themselves. And it is not a question of interviewing people and rejecting them. We are not interested in rejecting. Even,
Even a small portion of this ability or readiness is more than sufficient.
So why is it that this introspection is not taking place? Will you give me the freedom pleasantly that I am going to talk on this subject and this subject alone until you are doing this introspection yourself. I think I feel very miserable with this state of affairs. I am thinking, thinking like a research scientist, repeatedly over this, and I am coming out with easier, more easier, more easy, and I’m trying to make it compulsive, persuasive, optional, interesting and very, very effective and simple. Now if you tell me it is a hard job, I cannot agree.
Yesterday or day before yesterday, R was telling me – “Swamiji, my problems are not interactional alone, it is protoactional.” Arre, protoactional also has to be digested. That also has to be digested.
This means it is not any additional effort. It’s only an attitude. See we have got into a trouble. Whatever may be the trouble, yes we have got into the trouble. Instantly we start saying “You did this, you did that!” Arre, ok now what are we to do with the trouble? That’s all that is our concern. Who caused is not so important – that is by way of education. So you can also discuss in a very enlightening manner or think in a very enlightening manner that it is like this.
You know I was so happy yesterday when I called N and I was talking to him – “N, have you not come here to grow?” “Yes.”
“Now these are some of the dimensions, attitudes you have to adopt with regard to dealing with money and dealing with people. Are you not belonging to the owner, the yajamaana group of the Ashram? Why is it you pick up quarrels, and suddenly a dislike towards a servant or an employee? Is it right?”
“Swamiji, it was there earlier, now it is gone. I’m all right now.” He says that “I am all right now. The other day you called me and told me, I have changed my point of view. I have no problem.”
See, why are we saying it is not possible? Why should our N dislike a person, I don’t understand. You see there may be disagreeable notes, and so many other things. Does it give you a right to dislike a person? While we are discussing the defects of all of you or the insufficiencies, do you mean to say that we dislike you? Ok. So am I doing any help by discussing this subject? At least you are nodding your head for that. How to make you introspect over this? I don’t know of what necessity is all the introspection.
Vedanta tells you right from the beginning: Putreshana, vitteshana, lokeshana – these three have to be eliminated. Then ahaṅkāra and mamata have to be left. And you know from the 13th chapter, how subtly Sri Krishna or Vedavyasa discusses the shade elements, the mind shades which are hindering. If you remove one after the other – how will you remove? Only by knowing it is wrong. There is no other, you don’t have a pair of tongs to enter into your brain or heart and remove like this. No, it is only by an enlightenment process. Is this so? Is this so? Spend some time………
We should understand that all these are troubles. Okay.
Harih Om Tat Sat. Jai Guru. Jai Guru.